Government healthcare plans have grown over the years, now covering 29% of Americans. How has it helped costs?

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Insurance/InsureYourHealth/public-health-plan-29-percent-in-one-now.aspx

People keep saying how we need a public option, well there are many public options, Medicare, Medicaid, SCHIP, state healthcare programs, VA healthcare… I could go on and on. Now almost 1/3 of all Americans are on a public plan.

They have grown in size and scope over the years, and healthcare costs have not gone down, they have risen dramatically. So how is a “new” public option going to drive down costs?

14 Comments on "Government healthcare plans have grown over the years, now covering 29% of Americans. How has it helped costs?"

  1. Those programs are not funded by member premiums.

    Further, if the health care initiative succeeds, there will less demand/need for many separate programs, thus, reducing their costs,.

  2. Rush Limbaughs Drug Dealer | October 29, 2009 at 9:47 am |

    Those aren’t options, for example I would not qualifty for any of them, even the one in Mass where I live.

  3. It won’t.

    Any idiot with a basic understanding of economics will tell you that more people accessing a limited resource will either drive up the cost of that resource, or drive down the quality (or likely both).

  4. Those aren’t REAL public options that cover EVERYONE, and they aren’t as effective as they could be because Republicans cut funding to those programs at any chance they get.

    “So how is a “new” public option going to drive down costs?” – By creating competition for the private health care insurance industry, it will FORCE them to lower their costs which are already too high. It would also result in the majority of Americans having access to health care … does that scare you? I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised if it does, because it’s a well known fact that neocons are greedy pigs that hate the idea of equality.

  5. Micheala3-#1 Fan of WDPLM?3 | October 29, 2009 at 9:48 am |

    I have been saying that for years…..if there is no current public option, then what is Medicaid and Medicare all about?

    *note to Tex* I think that’s your boy Grayson, isn’t it?*

    GET THE GOVERNMENTOUT OF OUR PERSONAL LIVES AND POCKETS!

    *note to above posters* If Medicare and Medicaid are not options, then what are they?*

  6. Blessed Cheesemaker (cancelled) | October 29, 2009 at 9:49 am |

    Are you intentionally ignoring the increasing population of medicare recipients.

    Health care costs have increased primarily because there are not enough government regulations on private insurance companies.

  7. Heywood Jablowme | October 29, 2009 at 9:49 am |

    Make Medicare available to all

  8. It hasn’t helped costs. Their limits on what they will pay have forced those of us not on a government program to pay ever increasing medical care expenses..

    That is what so many don’t seem to understand. The government will dictate rates to health care providers and the rest of us will have to pay more so that those providers can make a living..

    Does anyone with half a brain really believe that this is designed as direct competition w/ insurance companies? I simply can’t believe how foolish so many are..

  9. Wow, you won’t give it up, will ya?

    The PO will work because it will be in DIRECT competition with the private industry…that is NOT the case in ANY social program you mention.

    Dude, get an education, your pathetic attempts at GOP spin, lies and misinformation are REALLY bad and sad.

  10. Buying is Voting | October 29, 2009 at 9:49 am |

    It’s a good question. I haven’t seen any indication that it does drive down costs, because the bulk of the costs are actually in the medical services themselves. Are those getting cheaper? Of course not. So it looks like we’re not driving costs down. We’re deferring them. Putting them on our national tab, so to speak.

    The only thing that could significantly lower health care (not insurance) costs would involve a combination of the following: Tort reform, massive investments into technologies that make procedures cheaper, and making people pay more for their own care. If people have to foot bills, they will minimize their impact on the system. As soon as someone else is cutting the checks, they don’t care if they get fat and have heart attacks, or pop out one million-dollar premature newborn baby after another, etc. Make people increasingly responsible for the health consequences of their decisions, and you will see consumer behavior change.

    Individual mandates would seem to solve the problem, in theory, not by lowering costs, but by spreading them around to everyone. Conservative-leaning folks find this the least palatable idea, and I have to say it’s easy to understand why.

  11. A better question is: Why do cons want to throw 90 million Americans under the bus?

  12. Because none of those plans compete with Private insurance, they are are specific plans with NO type of private competition.

    The Public option is an actual insurance plan that anyone could buy into, so people would have the option to leave their private plans and buy a public plan policy… this will cause the private insurers to have to be more competitive to keep their policy holders.

  13. I’d like a public option that I qualify for.

    Stung “Any idiot with a basic understanding of economics will tell you that more people accessing a limited resource will either drive up the cost of that resource, or drive down the quality (or likely both).”

    Speaking of basic understanding of economics, have you heard of “economies of scale.” It’s when EXACTLY the opposite of what you described happens. So . . . by your own rules, if you don’t have a basic understanding of economics . . .

  14. I currently experience the most cost-effective health care in the world. It’s run by the U.S. Government and it’s the Veteran’s Administration. Damn, forgot about that, didn’t ya?

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